недеља, 13. март 2016.

Guram Vashakmadze: Cohabitation with Mother Nature is possible!


GuramVashakmadze is a rare pearl: he is very modest and well-behaved, always smiling and polite, courageous and inventive, he loves his country and knows it's history in a such a way that it is astounding! GuramVashakmadze is young, restless in hart. Being close to Mother Nature he became very wise. I remember one thing he said to me, while we were climbing a steep mountain on our way to Gergeti Trinity Church (from XIV century), situated above village Gergeti in Georgia (2170 m). We were talking about liaisons, and Guram Vashakmadze said a very wise thing: if a person cannot accept who you are, you should not be with that person. He learned that the hard way – climbing mountain tops.




You study at Leopold Franzens University Innsbruck – Faculty of Political sciences - 3rd semester and at Free University of Tbilisi - Faculty of Governance and Social Sciences - 4thcourse. How do you do it and why?



At the present moment I study at the Free Uni of Tbilisi, 8th semester which is the last one on my way to bachelor degree. I took an academic pause in Innsbruck. To be honest I think I could have been way better in my academic life than I do now. But as long as I spent a lot of time in other for me very important things I do not regret past 4 years at all. I regard myself as a good student. I think I could be in the best 20% of the class.



Is that the reason why you know so much about your country and it’s history…



My knowledge of my country and history consists of all those experiences and information which I gathered from the academic and nonacademic activities, like school, university sports, mountaineering and relations and connections with a lot of people from different regions of Georgia.



Can you tell me something from Georgia’s history (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_(country))?



The whole history of Georgia is a saga of bloody wars, heroic stories and political games between huge empires and little states. I would like to mention Didgori battle from 12th century. United Georgia under King David IV with 40.000 went against Islamic coalition of 200.000 men and beat them. This battle determined the future of whole Caucasus and the Holy Land.[1]



What do you love the most about your country?



The diversity of nature and the possibility of extraordinary life which it gives to me.



You are a trekking guide, assistant mountain guide (above 3000 m) at the tours organized by “Mt. Kazbegi Climbers House” (http://www.hostelworld.com/hosteldetails.php/Kazbegi-Mountain-Hut/Stepantsminda/77974) and a ski-teacher at Hotel “Gudauri” at Gudauri Ski Resort, Georgia (http://www.gudauri.info/). How hard is it to climb high mountains? How hard is it to work with people in extreme conditions?



I choose to be an assistant guide deliberately, because being a guide is a huge responsibility, it requires knowledge and experience. The guide must be cold minded and fully concentrated on his duty, sometimes it’s the matter of life and death. As an assistant guide I have opportunity to learn more from experienced mountaineers and don’t stress myself way too much. It is always difficult to work in extreme conditions, especially on high altitude, even if there is no emergency situation. The guides always have to control the condition of the group and take safety measuresat the same time. Sometimes guides behave against the will of their clients, even if it could result in a conflict between them, but we should not regret this. Safety first!



How old were you when you started climbing?



I started climbing at the age of 12.



Why do you love climbing?



There is some kind of special feeling which I get only in the mountains. The feeling of freedom and the feeling that your fate is only in your hands and what happens next depends on your decisions.



How old were you when you first climbed Mt. Kazbegi (5047 m)? How did it feel? (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Kazbek)



I was 15 when I first climbed Mt. Kazbegi. The ascent was one of the most horrible experiences I’ve ever had. J I was super exhausted morally and physically. I felt the whole greatness of my achievement only on the way back to Stepantsminda when I looked back at the summit’s white shining hat.



Can you tell me what the Project “Uplistsikhe Challenge” (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpSRWlnl76g) is all about and what is your role in it?



“Uplistikhe Challenge” was the project of National Agency for Cultural Heritage Preservation of Georgia. Uplistikhe is ancient cave city of Georgia, located in Shida Kartli region, near Mtskheta.[2] The project included sportive and intellectual activities into one relay-race competition. I was part of it and took part in organizing the whole event.



You are a member of a national freestyle ski team of Georgia. How old were you when you started skiing?



I started skiing at the age of 3.



You took part in various international competitions like World winter Universiade and FIS freestyle World Championships. Did you win and when and where?



On World Championship in Kreischberg[3] 2015, Austria I ended up 42nd which counted to be a good result considering the preparing conditions in Georgia. My best international result is 18th Place at the World Universiade Trento 2013. I continue my training and hope for better results in future on EU cup in Austria, st. Anton. I won domestic championships 2 times in 2014, 2015 and ended 2nd once in 2013.



You also took part in a freeriding ski competition. Were you any good?



On a scale of international level I believe that I am better freerider than freestyle skier. I won Georgian Freeride Tours in 2012, 2013 and Georgian Universiade in 2014.


As a rugby player you participated in a rugby competitions and Universiade at Rugby Championship of Georgia…



Like many others I started playing rugby while I was still a kid. I won Georgian rugby B league championship among youth (15-16 of age) and following year got a silver medal in A league (17-18). I also played several professional games in Georgia’s highest league for R. C. Jiqebi (snow leopards). I stopped playing rugby professionally because of education and skiing.



You also took part in a diving Championship of Georgia…



Ah… yeah that was a while ago :D Diving was my first sport in which I got some passion. Still as a kid (I think I was 8 or 9) I took part in Georgian Championship among children and got 2nd. I remember I got no silver medal but a diploma and big box of car toys. 



You are worried about Georgia’s struggling with the ecological problems and suffering from pollution and landscape degeneration. What are you doing to change it?



Georgia is a developing country. Our economy grows pretty fast and situation changes from year to year. This is the reason why our people cannot adapt to new realities mentally, economically and infrastructuraly. The problem lies not only in the system of governing but in the education as well. We need to learn how to maximize ecological protection level and increase our wealth at the same time and this should start already at schools. As an athlete and mountain/trekking guide I am always promoting the pollution control and environment protection. Our national ski team several times cleaned slopes and gorges in the Caucasus. We tried to show an example of peaceful cohabitation with Mother Nature. Unfortunately at the moment I am not actively involved in those activities but I am sure soon or later I will get back to it.



Is there room for cooperation between our two countries when ecology is in question? How can we help each other?



Georgia is a mountainous country which has specific landscape and the matter of ecology is also specific here. Georgians have good experience in working on high altitudes which could be useful for any other country. On the other hand we are in lack of technologies and educational and informative projects.  



What are the most important features of Georgia?



            “Melting pot of culture”, extraordinary mix of European and Asian civilizations, first human kind being on the border of Europe (Dmanisi hominid 1.8 million years old)[4], Caucasus mountain range – huge wall which divides north and south Caucasus, absolutely unique language and writing system which doesn’t belong to any language family. 



In what way do you try to improve tourism in your country?



Nowadays I am trying to promote extreme sports in Georgia, which are actually world’s widest increasing sports in terms of popularity and commercial interests. I am especially trying to push extreme skiing on the frontline of our winter tourism business. I believe that freeriding, touring and freestyle skiing could make our winter resorts most popular in the region and famous among European and American market. Also it develops skiing culture and makes the connection between human and nature stronger.



Why should one visit Georgia?



By visiting Georgia you could discover whole new continent in one tiny country, with huge and peaceful diversity of cultures, languages, people, landscapes, cuisine and so on… From high and mythical mountains of Svaneti[5] via beautiful vineyards of Racha[6] and Imereti[7] you could travel to subtropical beaches of Black see. In one day you could sneak into jungles of Mtirala[8] and at the same day go back to super urbanized city of Batumi, enjoying nice sunny weather and swim in the Black sea. The religious life of Georgia and the strength of the church make this country even more unique for tourists. The old cave cities and south-eastern deserts will attract anyone who likes safari. Shortly: ALL IN ONE! Visit Georgia! :)





Interview by

Tamara Lujak







[1] The Battle of Didgori was fought between the armies of the Kingdom of Georgia and the declining Great Seljuq Empire at the place of Didgori, 40 km west of Tbilisi. The battle resulted in King David IV of Georgia’s decisive victory over a Seljuk invasion army under Ilghazi and the subsequent reconquest of a Muslim-held Tbilisi, which became the royal capital. The victory at Didgori inaugurated the medieval Georgian Golden Age.
[2] Uplistsikhe ("the lord's fortress") is an ancient rock-hewn town in eastern Georgia, some 10 kilometers east of the town of Gori, Shida Kartli. Built on a high rocky left bank of the Mtkvari River, it contains various structures dating from the early Iron age to the late Middle ages, and is notable for the unique combination of various styles of rock-cut cultures from anatolia and Iran, as well as the co-existence of pagan and Christian architecture.
[3] Ski resort.
[5] Situated on the southern slopes of the central Caucasus Mountainsand surrounded by 3,000–5,000 meter peaks, Svaneti is the highest inhabited area in the Caucasus. Four of the 10 highest peaks of the Caucasus are located in the region. Prominent peaks include Mount Shkhara (5,201 m), Tetnuldi (4,974 m), Shota Rustaveli (4,960 m), Mount Ushba (4,710 m).
[6] Racha is a highland area in western Georgia.
[7] Imereti is a region in Georgia situated along the middle and upper reaches of the Rioni river.
[8] Mtirala National Park is a protected area in Adjara region in Georgia.

Guram Vašakmac: Možemo da živimo u saglasju sa Prirodom!



Guram Vašakmac redak je biser: skroman je i lepo vaspitan, uvek nasmejan i ljubazan, hrabar i inventivan, voli svoju zemlju i toliko poznaje njenu istoriju da je to neverovatno! Guram Vašakmac je mlad, nemiran duh. Sazreo je zahvaljujući bliskom dodiru sa prirodom. Sećam se jedne mudrosti koju je izrekao dok smo se peli strmom planinom ka crkvi Gergeti iz XIV veka, smeštenoj, na visini od 2170 m, iznad sela Gergeti u Gruziji. Pričali smo o vezama, kada je Guram Vašakmac izrekao sledeću mudrost: ukoliko osoba sa kojom ste ne može da vas prihvati onakvim kakvi ste, onda ne treba da budete sa njom. To je naučio na teži način – osvajajući velike visine.


Student si Leopold Franzens Univerziteta u Insbruku – Fakulteta političkih nauka – pohađaš treći semestar, kao i Nezavisnog Univerziteta u Tbilisiju - Fakulteta društvenih nauka - pohađaš četvrti semestar. Kako u tome uspevaš i zašto si upisao te fakultete?

Trenutno studiram samo na Nezavisnom univerzitetu u Tbilisiju. Osmi sam semestar. To je poslednji semestar koji me deli od diplome. Pauziram na univerzitetu u Insbruku. Da budem iskren, mogao bih da budem i bolji na sudijama, ali sve dok radim druge stvari koje su za mene jako važne, nije mi žao tih četiri godine fakulteta. Verujem da sam dobar student. Mislim da bih mogao da uđem u red najboljih u mojoj klasi.

Da li je to razlog zašto znaš toliko o svojoj zemlji i njenoj istoriji?

Znanje koje posedujem sticao sam na fakultetu, ali i na van fakultetskim aktvivnostima, u školi, baveći se sportom, planinarenjem i u interakciji sa ljudima iz različitih regija Gruzije.

Možeš li mi reći nešto o istoriji Gruzije (https://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Грузија)?

Istorija Gruzije krvava je priča o ratovima, herojima i političkim spletkama između velikih carstava i malih država. Želim da izdvojim bitku na Didgoriju iz XII veka: gruzijska vojska, koja je brojala 40.000 vojnika pod kraljem Davidom IV Graditeljem bila je na jednoj, a seldžučka vojska sa 200.000 ljudi pod alepskim atabegom Ilghazijem, na drugoj strani. Ishod bitke odredio je sudbinu Kavkaza (regije) i Svete zemlje.[1]
Šta najviše voliš u svojoj zemlji?

Šarolikost prirode i izvanredan život koji mi pruža.

Radiš kao treking vodič, kao pomoćni planinarski vodič (na visinama višim od 3000m) pri planinarskom domu „Planina Kazbek“ (http://www.hostelworld.com/hosteldetails.php/Kazbegi-Mountain-Hut/Stepantsminda/77974) i kao instruktor skijanja u hotelu „Gudauri“, u skijaškom odmaralištu „Gudauri“ u Gruziji (http://www.gudauri.info/). Koliko je teško peti se na velike visine? Koliko je teško raditi sa ljudima u ekstremnim uslovima?

Postoji razlog zašto sam odlučio da budem pomoćni planinarski vodič: biti vodič nosi veliku odgovornost, zahteva veliko znanje i iskustvo. Vodič mora da sačuva prisustvo duha, mora da bude skoncentrisan sto posto na posao, pogotovo kada su situacije života i smrti u pitanju. Kao pomoćni vodič nisam pod tolikim pritiskom, a i imam priliku da učim od iskusnijih planinara. Uvek je teško raditi u ekstremnim uslovima, pogotovo na velikim visinama, čak i ako nema vanrednih situacija. Vodiči moraju da drže grupu na okupu i da vode računa o bezbednosti u svakom trenutku. Ponekad moraju da idu protiv volje svojih klijenata, ali ne treba da se brinu zbog toga, jer je bezbednost na prvom mestu!

Kad si počeo da se baviš planinarenjem?

Kada sam imao 12 godina.

Zašto voliš planinarenje?

Zbog posebnog osećanja koje me preplavi kada sam na planini. Osećaj slobode, osećaj da držite sudbinu u svojim rukama – sve što sledi zavisi samo od vas.

Koliko si godina imao kada si se prvi put popeo na Kazbek (5047 m)? Kakav je osećaj popeti se tako visoko? (https://sh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazbek)

Imao sam 15 godina. Uspon je bio jedan od najtežih iskustava u mom životu :) bio sam izuzetno iscrpljen, i mentalno i fizički. Veličinu svog podviga shvatio sam tek pošto sam se spustio u Stepancmindu (Kazbegi) i sagledao veličinu planine pod snegom.

Možeš li mi reći nešto više o projektu „Izazov Upliscihe” (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpSRWlnl76g) i koja je tvoja uloga u njemu?

Projekat je pokrenuo Zavod za zaštitu spomenika kulture Gruzije. Upliscihe je drevni gruzijski grad, smešten u blizini Mchete, u Šida Kartli regiji.[2] Projekat je obuhvatao sportska i druga takmičenja. Učestvovao sam u samom projektu, kao i u njegovom razvoju.

Skijaš slobodnim stilom, član si gruzijskog nacionalnog tima. Koliko si imao godina kada si prvi put stao na skije?

Imao sam samo tri godine kada sam prvi put stao na skije.

Učestvovao si na mnogim međunarodnim takmičenjima u skijanju slobodnim stilom, između ostalog i na zimskoj Univerzijadi i na FIS svetskom takmičenju slobodnim stilom. Da li si osvojio neku medalju i kad i gde?

Na Svetskom prvenstvu u Krajšbergu[3], u Austriji 2015. godine završio sam na 42 mestu, što je prilično dobar rezultat s obzirom na uslove u kojma sam trenirao u Gruziji. Najbolji rezultat koji sam osvojio na međunarodnom takmičenju bilo je 18 mesto na Univerzijadi u Trentu 2013. godine. Treniram i dalje i nadam se boljim rezultatima na EU kupu u Austriji u Sankt Anton am Arlbergu. Na prvenstvima u Gruziji dva puta sam osvojio prvo mesto, 2014. i 2015. godine, i jednom drugo 2013. godine.

Takođe si učestvovao na takmičenjima u skijanju na dasci slobodnim stilom. Kolikog si uspeha imao?

Smatram da sam bolji u skijanju na dasci slobodnim stilom, nego što sam u skijanju slobodnim stilom. Osvojio sam prvo mesto na takmičenjima u skijanju na dasci slobodnim stilom u Gruziji 2012. i 2013. godine, i prvo mesto na Univerzijadi u Gruziji 2014. godine.

Kao ragbista učestvovao si na mnogim takmičenjima, kao i na gruzijskoj ragbi Univerzijadi

Kao i mnogi drugi slični meni, rano sam počeo da treniram ragbi. Osvojio sam prvenstvo u B ligi (15-16 godina starosti) u Gruziji i nakon godinu dana srebrnu medalju u A ligi (17-18). Igrao sam nekoliko profesionalnih utakmica u gruzijskoj ligi R. C. Džikebi (Snežni leopardi). Prestao sam, međutim, profesionalno da se bavim ragbijem zbog fakulteta i skijanja.

Bavio si se i ronjenjem. Učestvovao si na Nacionalnom takmičenju ronilaca...

Ah, da... Time sam se davno bavio :) Ronjenje je bio prvi sport prema kojem sam osetio strast. Kao dečak (mislim da sam imao 8 ili 9 godina) učestvovao sam u prvenstvu za decu u Gruziji i osvojio drugo mesto. Nisam dobio srebrnu medalju već diplomu i veliku kutiju punu automobila igračaka.

Zabrinut si za sve težu borbu Gruzije za očuvanjem životne sredine. Šta činiš da sprečiš zagađenja i uništavanje prirodne sredine?

Gruzija je zemlja u razvoju. Naša ekonomija se brzo razvija i prilike u našoj zemlji se menjaju iz godine u godinu. To je razlog zašto naš narod ne može da se uskladi sa ekonomskim i infrastrukturnim razvojem zemlje. Problem ne leži samo u sistemu upravljanja, već i u obrazovanju. Moramo da naučimo kako da sačuvamo našu sredinu i istovremeno razvijemo zemlju, a to mora da se uči još u školi. Kao sportista i vodič/planinar neprekidno se zalažem za očuvanje životne sredine. Naš nacionalni tim je u nekoliko navrata čistio padine i klance Kavkaza. Pokušavamo da pokažemo da možemo da živimo u saglasju sa Prirodom. Trenutno, na žalost, ne učestvujem u ekološkim akcijama, ali verujem da ću im se vrlo brzo vratiti.

Postoji li prostor za saradnju između naše dve zemlje po pitanju ekologije? Kako možemo da pomognemo jedni drugima?

Gruzija je planinska zemlja i kao takva ima specifičnih ekoloških problema. Gruzini su navikli na rad na velikim visinama i kao takvi mogu lako da pruže pomoć bilo kojoj zemlji kojoj je to potrebno. Ono što nama fali je nedostatak tehnologije, obrazovanja i projekata koji bi podržali ekološke akcije.

Koje su najlepše odlike Gruzije?

Gruzija je svojevrsna mešavina evropske i azijske civilizacije. Prva naseobina osnovana je na granici sa Evropom (Dmanisi hominid star je 1,8 miliona godina)[4], Kavkaz – ogroman planinski „zid“ koji deli severni i južni Kavkaz (oblast), naš apsolutno jedinstven jezik i pismo, koje ne pripada ni jednoj porodici jezika.

Na koji način pokušavaš da unaprediš turizam u svojoj zemlji?

Promovišem ekstremne sportove u Gruziji, koji se danas najbrže razvijaju i najkomercijalniji su. Pokušavam da razvijem ekstremno skijanje kao jedan od zimskih sportova. Verujem da skijanje slobodnim stilom, kao i skijanje na dasci slobodnim stilom mogu našu zemlju da učine najpoznatijim i najpopularnijim mestom za odmor kako za Evropljane, tako i za Amerikance. Na taj bismo način razvili skijanje i ojačali vezu između Prirode i čoveka.

Zašto vredi posetiti Gruziju?
 
Posetom Gruziji otkrivate ceo jedan kontinent u malom, sa ogromnom šarolikošću u kulturi, jeziku, ljudima, pejzažima, kuhinji i tako dalje... Od visokih i mističnih planina pokrajine Svaneti[5] preko prelepih vinograda Rača[6] i Imereti[7] do suptropskih plaža na Crnom moru. U jednom danu možete da posetite džungle Mtirale[8] i odete do ultra modernog grada Batumija, i uživate u kupanju u Crnom moru. Religiozni život i snaga vere čini našu zemlju još privlačnijom za turiste. Stari gradovi podignuti u pećinama i jugo-istočne pustinje privućiće sve one koji vole safari. Ukratko: SVE U JEDNOM! Posetite Gruziju! :)


Prevela i razgovor vodila
Tamara Lujak




[1] Kralj David je, usprkos izrazitoj brojčanoj inferiornosti, uspeo u potpunosti da razbije seldžučku vojsku i Gruziji pripoji današnju prestolnicu Tbilisi i druge gruzijske krajeve koji su pre toga vekovima bili pod muslimanskom vlašću. Za bitku se često navodi da je označila početak zlatnog doba srednjovekovne Gruzije.
[2] Upliscihe („vladarev grad“) drevni je grad-pećina, jedan od prvih gradova na teritoriji Gruzije. Usečen je u steni i nalazi se 12 km istočno od grada Gori, na levoj obali reke Kura. Grad se naročito razvijao od kraja drugog do početka prvog milenijuma p.n.e. Upliscihe je bio važan verski, politički i kulturni centar u helenističkom i kasnom antičkom periodu, od IV v.p.n.e. do IV v.n.e. Konačno je napušten u XIX veku. Jedan je od najznačajnijih spomenika gruzijske kulture.
[3] Skijaško odmaralište.
[5] Оkruženа је vrhovima od 3000 do 5000 m visine - najviše naseljeno područje Kavkaza. Četiri od 10 najviših vrhova Kavkaza nalaze se u ovom području (Šara 5201 m, Tetnuldi 4974 m; Šota Rustaveli 4960 m; i Ušba 4710 m).
[6] Planinska oblast u zapadnoj Gruziji.
[7] Oblast oko gornjeg i srednjeg toka reke Rioni u Gruziji.
[8] Nacionalni park u autonomnoj republici Adžariji u Gruziji.